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thank you

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welcome back to calling all beings I am

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your host Nathan that's our super mellow

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intro for our fireside chat sessions

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which we have introduced over the last

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few weeks and uh it's been a fun way to

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have a conversation we're just kind of

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doing something a little bit more

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informal than a a regular interview just

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allows us to kind of Go in different

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directions and also provides our our

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guests with a chance to ask questions as

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well so it keeps it kind of interesting

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in that regard uh it's been a little

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while since we've had a show it's good

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to be back on with everybody DJ is out

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in the field he's watching some Moto GP

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racing as we speak he's going to try to

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join us if he gets a chance to with a

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mobile connection so we'll see if he

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pops on a little bit but until he does I

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want to catch up with my co-host for the

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day Deb Deb how's it going what you've

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been up to

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oh I've been busy doing research reading

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books

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um I took the week off so I could get

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some relaxation in before things get

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really busy with work but next week back

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to work man awesome yeah it's uh and

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it's been I don't know how your Summer's

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been but it's been a little bit slower

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at least on the podcast uh scene uh it

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has given me a chance to work on a

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couple of other projects which has been

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fun but I get the sense that things are

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starting to pick up again uh in

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particular with today there was a big

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interview that we might get a chance to

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chat about uh during the during the show

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so it feels like things are kind of

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picking up again particularly with the

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new report that we're expecting at the

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end of October uh so hopefully we'll see

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some momentum going into the end of the

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year could it be a great Halloween this

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year I like that optimism excellent well

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let's bring on our guests we are very

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very excited to have with us Mr Baptist

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Court I'm sure I didn't pronounce that

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name very accurately but uh he is a a

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friend Frenchman who has done so much

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for raising the awareness of the UAP

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Topic in the EU and in France in

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particular he's the host of the Explorer

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lab which is a podcast and a YouTube

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channel where he does interviews and and

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also you know raises the awareness of

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the topic in the mainstream he's he's an

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making sure that he doesn't miss

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interviews that happen in the community

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news articles that are kind of put

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published about the topic is just an

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excellent resource if you aren't

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following him on Twitter you've got to I

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think he's a great One-Stop shop for

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information so we are very honored to

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have him with us this evening for our

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fireside chat so please welcome Mr

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Baptiste shall I say it put your hands

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together yes

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thank you very much such an introduction

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thank you very much yeah it's great to

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have you with us um I hope you're having

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a good evening so far uh so tell us a

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little bit about uh you know kind of um

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how how you got into the topic and you

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started with an interest in a young age

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with that I believe it was an incident

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that happened in Mexico and you had a

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friend that was uh living there at the

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time is that right that kind of piqued

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your interest and started you down this

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UFO Journey absolutely not no that's not

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you no no it's not me no I'm I'm a

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teacher by trade and every couple of

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years I do a big poll with my students

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to know what concerns them and in 2017

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and with my usual big mouth I of course

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assured them but I will find the answer

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and in September 2017 I looked into the

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subject and found dirt there was nothing

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reliable everybody was steering each

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other apart and I said to them it's

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and in December 2017 there were the New

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so I had to go back to them and say

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sorry I was wrong there is actually

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something reliable inside

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it's a very specific program inside the

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dod under supervision of the Congress

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and that started my work because I still

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didn't have yourself what are UFOs so

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since then I've been Gathering

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informations to find the answer

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amazing I mean I I love that approach

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because uh it's it's kind of very

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innocent you know you were responding to

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the interests of your class and you just

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went in to try to find out more about it

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and that led you to where you are sounds

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like you've kept a pretty open mind but

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not only did you sort of conclude there

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was something to it but you decided that

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you wanted to raise the awareness of the

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topic just more generally so what kind

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of motivates you to

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be such a supporter of the topic in

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social media and also on your Explorer

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so we the main diagnostic I could do

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let's I I did sorry uh was that there

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was no real scientific research public

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scientific research maybe it's private

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scientific research which is not a

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public program about it so the the

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easiest way to do it is to fire the

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Curiosity of scientists

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scientists real scientists are people

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that love mysteries they love resolving

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Mysteries that's why they Vie for the

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problem is that there is a taboo on the

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subject how do you lift the taboo you

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what I noticed that there was no

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nobody sharing

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information

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even researchers which is very strange

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but I know almost a dozen very reliable

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researchers that refuse to share

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information and she's very strange they

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want to to possess the knowledge and not

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to share it so that's why what as that's

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what I try to do I try to gather

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information and share it

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that's fantastic and it I mean again as

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seem to never sleep when it comes to

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finding it and sharing it so I really

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appreciate that it's uh it's it's an

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incredible resource and um I hope you

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get a lot of thanks for that because it

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really is something valuable uh that is

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a constant contribution so thank you

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um Deb do you have any questions for

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at the commeto report that they had all

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these plans to use all these Sim systems

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this right

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and that they had um a plan in place

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where people can talk to

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that stuff's not coming back out now are

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you noticing that also that the

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information has sort of stalled from

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that site of things

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strange to ask information

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from either the military or intelligent

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their their business their main business

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is not to talk

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if you want information you go to the

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scientist not the military when special

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review intelligence that is

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spread the information it's because it's

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useful for them so

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even in the military you know we are in

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gray walls we are in information Wars so

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when you see an information spread by

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the military because it serves their

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strategy it's a very sensor approach out

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of War but it's really well done it's

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the terms of War when you want to your

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adversary to know you are strong you

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appear strong when you want him to think

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that you are weak you are pay a week so

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can ring from intelligent services or

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the military and I don't really

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understand why you expect the truth from

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them it's really really really not their

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job to do so

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committer report is heavily

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references heavily the military infants

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that's true but it's the outside part of

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the committee report was structured

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around an Institute called the IH edn

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which is a kind of military school for

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very highly educated people

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and it was to express a concern that not

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enough resources was given to this topic

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by the political corpse

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so it's not really you really need to

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understand the purpose of that book it

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was really never meant to be that public

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it was a briefing document made for the

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government given to the government read

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by the government

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what happened is that the public taboo

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was so strong at the time that the Press

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got hold of it and they destroyed the

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reputation of men and very senior

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military men that wrote that report

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so that's that was the death of that

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report in France but we know the

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political core Reddit they learn from it

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uh they were aware from it but it is

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inside a very long string the first

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uh defense department French defense

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uh organization that deal with UFOs was

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created in 1951.

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and it was made public by 1954.

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before the French Congress in front of

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the French Congress took French

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congressmen so it's a very very long

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history it's just that we have a proper

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military and they just don't talk

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so that means we're not going to be able

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to get that handbook that they created

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how the report of me okay got it

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you will have the old versions they are

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um well and I I had a question then

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about uh so where do you see the uh the

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French uh sensibilities on this topic

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now do you think that that's shifting a

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little bit and then I'd like to get your

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Insight too just on in the EU more

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broadly is there are there any countries

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that um

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from your perspective might be more open

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to this conversation than than others

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so the main Blocker in the EU was the UK

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France for decades try to launch a

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public European UFO Studio program and

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three times it was torpedoed by the UK

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and now the UK has left the scene so

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there is an opportunity to do something

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like that I don't think it would be that

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political the last time it was really

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pushed by the Belgian states where the

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Prime Minister really pushed that

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subject and it was his reputation was

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destroyed by the UK following it so I

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think the the track that is much more

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interesting is now what we have with a

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committee that is called free AF Sigma

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2. it's the French aeronautical

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Association

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Sigma 2 is a reference of statistical

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method of analysis when you have a set

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of data you search for rank of stigma

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and the iro Rank and statistic map the

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more reliable your information is until

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you get to five or six Sigma where you

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have an increased probability of just

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noise creating a signal so it's it's a

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kind of statistical analysis drug to for

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the name of the committee

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they just published last year 400 pages

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in English report of UFO studies with

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the best scientific analysis you can

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find on Earth and destroying some

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misconceptions of very well-known UFO

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footage believed to be true and very

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well explained by conventional means

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and I think it's that way to go to

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gather scientists interested in that

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topic what is doing the SCU or uapx or

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Chris letter in the US

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and

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concentrate your efforts on a very small

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data set of very reliable information

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and put aside everything that is even a

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little gray just use white data

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and that's why you you don't see them

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using very old data very old data that

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is used come from Project Blue Book

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which is which was a very very

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scientific analysis of UFO case and to

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this day is still a very strong data set

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the problem is that at the time they had

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very poor resources to gather

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information on Signal intelligence so

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you don't have that much information but

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nice and I've heard um recently on an

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interview

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um with a CIA analyst he's a retired

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analyst he was talking about the

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different intelligence agencies and one

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thing that caught my attention was that

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the French are renowned for their

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intelligence work that um amongst the

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different you know sort of

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sub-disciplines and intelligence they

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are really well known for their ability

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to get inside different states even

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friendly States and get quality data out

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and create those reports that are so

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valuable

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um so do you see that uh that that

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France will kind of continue applying

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pressure and be able to collate more

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information with that white data that

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you talked about do you have a sense

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that that's going to be uh increasing in

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the future do we think they'll be more

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vocal as a as a state in in this

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conversation are we kind of all still

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waiting is the world just going to be

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waiting on the U.S to kind of take the

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the full lead and step forward with what

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I would be blunt there is no

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advantage of pushing that subject on an

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international place

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you either have to disclose way of

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spying on these objects

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telling your own population that you

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don't master your own hairsprays

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or requesting help from other countries

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so the next day they will request

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something in counterparts

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so publicly there is zero interest in

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doing so

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on the private level on the discrete

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level it's very different

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we

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military program that should die UFOs is

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a very strong signal we don't have the

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resources of the us we are a very small

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country

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France is equivalent to California in a

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in financial power so when we give

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resources to a program we really ask

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ourselves do we need that program or not

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and we need that program and it is a

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it's a very serious subject the higher

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you go in the hierarchy we have military

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periods Chasing UFOs above the the

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southern civil Mediterranean Sea we have

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encounters with them we have very senior

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military people that said that they

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encountered them in the French Skies we

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are very senior civilian Pilots that

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gave testimonies and corroborated by

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military data on it so

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it's a very sturdy topic the problem is

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the taboo that was engineered and if you

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believe the Australian intelligence

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survives by vcia

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in the U.S

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and that's the only blocker there is so

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you don't really need to push the

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subject internationally you need to talk

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to newspapers you need to talk to

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journalists you need to introduce them

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to that topic they've been bred to

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ignore

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Ross culture gave several times a very

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interesting testimony about his youth as

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a young

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journalist and he was taught

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to ignore the subject

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so you have a world generation of

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journalists you need to convince a new

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yeah agree yep

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one thing I noticed in doing my research

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into France

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um is that you have a growing problem

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with some animal mutilations especially

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horses

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but that there's a really low number of

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reported abductions so I feel like

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there's still abductions of course but

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you know there's a cultural difference

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in how people are reporting

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um so I guess I just want your

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perspective on yeah what is the

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perspective of the cultural differences

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we've already touched on a few of them

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obviously there's a different thought

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about the military aspect

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that we shouldn't expect that from them

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like we do here by but what is your

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firstly to to answer your question about

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addictions we have them too uh we just

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have

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um a whole laboratory public laboratory

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of research on it

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uh when

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um an abductee contact with a j-pong who

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is the

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um

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national public office about UFOs if

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it's an abduction case with

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psychological trauma it is sent to that

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laboratory that takes charge of the

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patients and heal them the best they can

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uh we are also a private Association

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that gives support psychological support

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to abductees

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um

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V I'm sorry given can you give me time

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to look for the name moment of course

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that sounds good

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um while you're doing that

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um maybe we can chat a little bit about

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something that happened today just not

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long ago

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uh that I'd like to get into

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on the show today as well so Deb I don't

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know if you had a chance to catch the

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interview with uh Jay from Project Unity

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and Oak Shannon

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um where Oak provided some uh

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corroborating evidence for the uh to

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some of the details that were present in

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the Wilson Davis memo

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um specifically you know corroborating

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that uh Admiral uh Wilson did call him

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to try to get a sense of Eric Davis Kind

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of vouch for Eric Davis's credentials

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that did take place around the same time

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that the memo referenced it did so that

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was quite an interesting detail but um I

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don't know if you if you caught that and

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had any thoughts about that conversation

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um actually it doesn't surprise me

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everything indicates to me that the

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document is real

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um I have a different sense of the

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weight of it though because I think to

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me it was sort of obvious that we had

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crash retrieval programs that go went

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into private you know hands

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um I thought it was pretty much

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indicated when Moon dust was all over

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the foyers but I am happy that he

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confirmed that I did see him mentioning

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that on Facebook

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um quite a lengthy description of what

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his video was going to be so I'll be

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happy to look at that later

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nice excellent excellent if you did you

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catch that interview I know we want to

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get back to you but while we're on that

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topic did you have a chance to listen to

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that earlier today

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um I didn't listen to it because I don't

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care about the Wilson documents but

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that's what I said it's not scientific

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scientific data so of course the US has

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a program on this of course you have

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private contractors that are working on

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it it's written in the projects also a

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memorandum to the press in 1949.

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so you don't need the Wilson memo

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document you have a war memorandum

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published by your military at by the air

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material command

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saying that they have

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a higher Laboratories privatibility is

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to study UFO debris

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right yeah I don't need the gray

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documents yeah the Midwest program is

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going before satellites were in the sky

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and they're running around picking up

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things all over the world probably in

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France too you know they were paying

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people for whatever fell from the sky so

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so I I it amazes to me that people are

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so like was there a crash retrieval

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program and I keep thinking you think

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maybe yeah it's it's a very simple

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question how much resources would the

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U.S give to have the latest prototype of

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Russian fighter aircraft

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and just picture that to another specie

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but send the sheep on Earth

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just imagine the amount of resources the

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U.S would be willing to spend to have

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yeah exactly

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yeah I'd love to know if there were

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breadcrumbs to France picking up some

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craft from France too you know that'd be

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great to find out we had a lot of debris

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we had a lot of debris hmm

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yeah so maybe you can speak to that then

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uh are you aware of any french programs

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to study that uh debris or a

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our ongoing programs to study it so as

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far as I know the research of it as most

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of it is Jack Valley who has an

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agreement with the

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French national space agency and can use

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the this agency

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this agencies Laboratories to do

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research on these debris recovered and

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in the meantime he uses the technology

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made by Gary Nolan

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which is high on beam microscope

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right that's great yeah something like

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25 different debris to analyze but it's

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known since

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1998 uh he published a war report uh in

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the tomorrow's scientific exploration if

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I remember well where I listed all the

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debris he gathered and the basic

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yeah and were you able to find what you

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were looking for on the on the streets

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so it's the 0 c e r o and if you want

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information about French objectives you

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can contract them they are very open to

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dialogue

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I think I may have the link for that I

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think I just saw that the other day

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and I appreciate that because the

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question about that stems from also the

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SSE the society

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um for scientific exploration there is

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someone

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um a sociologist who is talking about

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how the French report less abductions

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and at the time of his comments which I

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think was about 2015 he said there were

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only a hundred public French reports and

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that's in contrast of what the U.S

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00:25:17,810 --> 00:25:16,320
supposedly had which was about 75

559
00:25:20,810 --> 00:25:17,820
000.

560
00:25:24,470 --> 00:25:20,820
uh so first you need to compare to per

561
00:25:28,130 --> 00:25:24,480
capita so the the US is six times the

562
00:25:30,230 --> 00:25:28,140
size of France so you will have more and

563
00:25:33,890 --> 00:25:30,240
a lot you need to understand that

564
00:25:36,169 --> 00:25:33,900
culturally we have a big ego we really

565
00:25:39,590 --> 00:25:36,179
culturally have a big one we are proud

566
00:25:41,390 --> 00:25:39,600
to be French so when we have to say that

567
00:25:44,090 --> 00:25:41,400
we have been abducted and raped inside

568
00:25:47,029 --> 00:25:44,100
the ship by aliens culturally it's

569
00:25:49,430 --> 00:25:47,039
really a struggle for us but you have

570
00:25:52,130 --> 00:25:49,440
married as the boss who wrote a whole

571
00:25:54,350 --> 00:25:52,140
book on your full abductions you have

572
00:25:57,710 --> 00:25:54,360
visual manner that wrote A World Book of

573
00:26:01,549 --> 00:25:57,720
contacties so we have a

574
00:26:06,049 --> 00:26:01,559
very interesting cases of dialogue with

575
00:26:10,850 --> 00:26:08,210
what and just kind of Follow that a

576
00:26:15,950 --> 00:26:10,860
little bit further um what would you say

577
00:26:20,810 --> 00:26:17,990
attitude toward the more sort of

578
00:26:23,810 --> 00:26:20,820
paranormal aspects of of the UFO topic

579
00:26:24,649 --> 00:26:23,820
is is it because it sounds to me like it

580
00:26:26,269 --> 00:26:24,659
uh

581
00:26:28,730 --> 00:26:26,279
it's really only looked at and

582
00:26:30,470 --> 00:26:28,740
appreciated largely from the very sort

583
00:26:34,549 --> 00:26:30,480
of nut nuts and bolts scientific

584
00:26:36,110 --> 00:26:34,559
perspective is there any uh how do the

585
00:26:39,590 --> 00:26:36,120
French people tend to kind of think of

586
00:26:41,710 --> 00:26:39,600
these other strange sort of experiences

587
00:26:45,950 --> 00:26:41,720
of the phenomena whether they be

588
00:26:48,649 --> 00:26:45,960
uh you know orbs or experiences uh with

589
00:26:50,810 --> 00:26:48,659
uh you know people who might be ghosts

590
00:26:52,250 --> 00:26:50,820
or apparitions or you know these other

591
00:26:55,789 --> 00:26:52,260
sort of stories that you hear that might

592
00:26:58,730 --> 00:26:55,799
be related to the UFO phenomenon

593
00:27:01,850 --> 00:26:58,740
so that's my opinion I never found a

594
00:27:03,470 --> 00:27:01,860
real that they said that could show that

595
00:27:05,269 --> 00:27:03,480
scientifically so it's only my

596
00:27:06,049 --> 00:27:05,279
perspective on that

597
00:27:09,010 --> 00:27:06,059
um

598
00:27:13,789 --> 00:27:09,020
I would say that it's the opposite

599
00:27:15,730 --> 00:27:13,799
a very large part of the population at

600
00:27:20,570 --> 00:27:15,740
contact with

601
00:27:22,990 --> 00:27:20,580
anything that you call weird they know

602
00:27:25,850 --> 00:27:23,000
there is something weird in our

603
00:27:29,769 --> 00:27:25,860
perception of reality

604
00:27:34,269 --> 00:27:29,779
and UFOs are lackluster in comparison

605
00:27:36,230 --> 00:27:34,279
people will see that as an entertainment

606
00:27:40,070 --> 00:27:36,240
and

607
00:27:41,990 --> 00:27:40,080
would trust more yeah I think it's a

608
00:27:44,630 --> 00:27:42,000
popular expression they would trust more

609
00:27:47,690 --> 00:27:44,640
a French man saying he saw a ghost and a

610
00:27:49,669 --> 00:27:47,700
Frenchman saying he saw a UFO okay I

611
00:27:52,010 --> 00:27:49,679
think that that's more proper not

612
00:27:54,710 --> 00:27:52,020
publicly but discreetly from one to

613
00:27:57,890 --> 00:27:54,720
another I think it's more suited because

614
00:28:01,549 --> 00:27:57,900
there is no Real Taboo engineer on the

615
00:28:04,909 --> 00:28:01,559
topic of Panama stuff

616
00:28:09,230 --> 00:28:04,919
I I think it's popular in the

617
00:28:12,789 --> 00:28:09,240
um in the public newspapers it's the

618
00:28:15,769 --> 00:28:12,799
opposite the Paranormal is like

619
00:28:19,370 --> 00:28:15,779
banished from any serious publication

620
00:28:22,130 --> 00:28:19,380
but UFOs as they have a nuts and ball

621
00:28:23,690 --> 00:28:22,140
components you have very serious and

622
00:28:25,070 --> 00:28:23,700
Senior journalists that are working on

623
00:28:27,409 --> 00:28:25,080
it and

624
00:28:29,810 --> 00:28:27,419
follow what is happening in the U.S and

625
00:28:31,909 --> 00:28:29,820
relay information for to the French

626
00:28:35,230 --> 00:28:31,919
media

627
00:28:38,630 --> 00:28:35,240
that's fascinating and and that's I mean

628
00:28:40,610 --> 00:28:38,640
that's sort of a Remnant uh

629
00:28:42,230 --> 00:28:40,620
of France's you know sort of more

630
00:28:44,390 --> 00:28:42,240
religious past would you say or what

631
00:28:46,010 --> 00:28:44,400
what's the the comfort with the

632
00:28:49,610 --> 00:28:46,020
Paranormal there is it coming from that

633
00:28:51,529 --> 00:28:49,620
or something else not truly because we

634
00:28:54,010 --> 00:28:51,539
are one of the country which has the

635
00:28:58,070 --> 00:28:54,020
most at least population

636
00:28:59,450 --> 00:28:58,080
so and we have been uh so there is a

637
00:29:02,510 --> 00:28:59,460
nickname for France that teaches the

638
00:29:06,110 --> 00:29:02,520
daughter of a church and it was true for

639
00:29:09,470 --> 00:29:06,120
a very long time but since the 1950s it

640
00:29:11,930 --> 00:29:09,480
has very much degraded and you have a

641
00:29:13,190 --> 00:29:11,940
kind of religious fundamentalism that

642
00:29:16,010 --> 00:29:13,200
happened

643
00:29:19,490 --> 00:29:16,020
um real really like what you can find

644
00:29:21,250 --> 00:29:19,500
the far right in the U.S

645
00:29:24,830 --> 00:29:21,260
um

646
00:29:28,250 --> 00:29:24,840
but I I don't think it's related to it

647
00:29:30,889 --> 00:29:28,260
it's related to it in in the in Italy

648
00:29:34,490 --> 00:29:30,899
Italy yes you have

649
00:29:36,169 --> 00:29:34,500
um we have statistical data on Italy uh

650
00:29:37,970 --> 00:29:36,179
it is the country that has a more

651
00:29:40,789 --> 00:29:37,980
paranormal stuff and it is collaborated

652
00:29:43,549 --> 00:29:40,799
with more practice into religion and

653
00:29:46,070 --> 00:29:43,559
there is a real correlation there

654
00:29:49,690 --> 00:29:46,080
um I think it's really the part about

655
00:29:52,549 --> 00:29:49,700
talking to it publicly that differs it's

656
00:29:57,110 --> 00:29:52,559
pretty well accepted in other countries

657
00:29:59,930 --> 00:29:57,120
like Brazil South even every country in

658
00:30:02,149 --> 00:29:59,940
Southern America is very open on the

659
00:30:04,870 --> 00:30:02,159
subject with Brazilian law is

660
00:30:09,169 --> 00:30:04,880
astonishing about it if you never read

661
00:30:10,789 --> 00:30:09,179
the Brazilian official law on ghosts is

662
00:30:15,169 --> 00:30:10,799
it's

663
00:30:17,510 --> 00:30:15,179
but it exists

664
00:30:19,190 --> 00:30:17,520
and you have that in Italy you have a

665
00:30:21,590 --> 00:30:19,200
little bit of that in Spain and you

666
00:30:23,330 --> 00:30:21,600
don't really don't have that publicly in

667
00:30:25,310 --> 00:30:23,340
France so I think it's more crucial

668
00:30:29,029 --> 00:30:25,320
problem

669
00:30:30,350 --> 00:30:29,039
fascinating that's really interesting

670
00:30:32,750 --> 00:30:30,360
Deb

671
00:30:35,269 --> 00:30:32,760
yeah I was gonna say um I would be

672
00:30:37,549 --> 00:30:35,279
remiss if I didn't ask the question that

673
00:30:39,769 --> 00:30:37,559
teacher would be asking if he was here

674
00:30:42,409 --> 00:30:39,779
right now since we're Spock talking

675
00:30:44,389 --> 00:30:42,419
about the other paranormal and anyone

676
00:30:45,289 --> 00:30:44,399
who's interested in this topic runs into

677
00:30:48,230 --> 00:30:45,299
this

678
00:30:51,350 --> 00:30:48,240
what is the story with Bigfoot in France

679
00:30:59,870 --> 00:30:54,909
I I really appreciate

680
00:31:03,950 --> 00:30:59,880
David's uh walk on the subject and we

681
00:31:06,590 --> 00:31:03,960
have really weird witness testimonies in

682
00:31:09,649 --> 00:31:06,600
France but it's not limited to France

683
00:31:13,970 --> 00:31:09,659
you have some reports in Germany some

684
00:31:16,370 --> 00:31:13,980
reports in Poland all the way to Russia

685
00:31:20,049 --> 00:31:16,380
but

686
00:31:33,850 --> 00:31:23,269
knowledge someone who is really looking

687
00:31:39,529 --> 00:31:37,250
now I'm just gonna say I suspect that my

688
00:31:42,049 --> 00:31:39,539
my view is that it's encrypted right

689
00:31:44,690 --> 00:31:42,059
it's a an entity that we haven't

690
00:31:47,570 --> 00:31:44,700
identified so I don't know if France has

691
00:31:49,970 --> 00:31:47,580
the level of like on uh populated

692
00:31:55,730 --> 00:31:49,980
forests and whatever so maybe you can

693
00:31:55,740 --> 00:32:04,070
um I'm not sure it's that simple

694
00:32:09,230 --> 00:32:06,889
the other the the I'm sure France does

695
00:32:12,230 --> 00:32:09,240
but uh is there like a rich tradition of

696
00:32:15,590 --> 00:32:12,240
folklore in France like uh there is an

697
00:32:18,110 --> 00:32:15,600
in England and in Ireland and

698
00:32:21,769 --> 00:32:18,120
so it was pretty much sterilized by the

699
00:32:23,630 --> 00:32:21,779
Roman Empire so we are not most French

700
00:32:26,029 --> 00:32:23,640
people would say we are Celtic warriors

701
00:32:27,370 --> 00:32:26,039
no no we are Romans we have been

702
00:32:31,909 --> 00:32:27,380
colonized

703
00:32:34,730 --> 00:32:31,919
we have like 20 Celtic words in the

704
00:32:39,049 --> 00:32:34,740
French language compared to the 30 000

705
00:32:42,769 --> 00:32:39,059
in the uh Greek and Italian Roman

706
00:32:45,710 --> 00:32:42,779
Italian Roots so that culture pretty

707
00:32:48,049 --> 00:32:45,720
much obliterated what we add in folklore

708
00:32:49,970 --> 00:32:48,059
at the time but when the Christian

709
00:32:52,430 --> 00:32:49,980
religion established itself in the

710
00:32:54,789 --> 00:32:52,440
fourth Century in France they converted

711
00:32:59,210 --> 00:32:54,799
all the folklore into

712
00:33:02,389 --> 00:32:59,220
uh his local texts so when you dig

713
00:33:04,310 --> 00:33:02,399
inside uh ancient text you can find

714
00:33:06,070 --> 00:33:04,320
rests of

715
00:33:10,310 --> 00:33:06,080
lists

716
00:33:16,370 --> 00:33:10,320
something coming from that workload that

717
00:33:21,049 --> 00:33:18,889
that's fascinating

718
00:33:23,090 --> 00:33:21,059
okay so if you don't mind I'd like to go

719
00:33:24,889 --> 00:33:23,100
a little bit back into something you

720
00:33:27,710 --> 00:33:24,899
said earlier

721
00:33:31,610 --> 00:33:27,720
um you said that in 1951 they started to

722
00:33:34,330 --> 00:33:31,620
study the UFOs in France the Albany

723
00:33:38,750 --> 00:33:34,340
um why do you think it was then was it

724
00:33:41,149 --> 00:33:38,760
as a result of what was going on in the

725
00:33:43,130 --> 00:33:41,159
United States and England or do you

726
00:33:46,070 --> 00:33:43,140
think it was some other thing that was a

727
00:33:50,630 --> 00:33:46,080
catalyst for that involvement

728
00:33:52,669 --> 00:33:50,640
so in in the 50s we had an author called

729
00:33:55,250 --> 00:33:52,679
Jimmy Grier who published that the

730
00:33:58,490 --> 00:33:55,260
original 50s book published two books in

731
00:34:02,029 --> 00:33:58,500
52 and 54. about the subject and it was

732
00:34:04,909 --> 00:34:02,039
pretty much the first to give

733
00:34:08,450 --> 00:34:04,919
information about what was happening in

734
00:34:11,089 --> 00:34:08,460
the U.S because in the US you had uh or

735
00:34:14,510 --> 00:34:11,099
where all what was happening between 42

736
00:34:16,909 --> 00:34:14,520
and 52 which was a very tense period and

737
00:34:19,490 --> 00:34:16,919
you have a book by Greg Wendell in

738
00:34:22,669 --> 00:34:19,500
English about flying sources I don't

739
00:34:24,589 --> 00:34:22,679
remember the name now sorry Graham about

740
00:34:29,810 --> 00:34:24,599
that specific period and you have

741
00:34:31,550 --> 00:34:29,820
another book from him on the 4245 period

742
00:34:33,530 --> 00:34:31,560
on the Foo Fighters which is really

743
00:34:34,970 --> 00:34:33,540
interesting so I I would recommend to go

744
00:34:38,050 --> 00:34:34,980
to the sources to have more information

745
00:34:43,730 --> 00:34:38,060
for the US in France we had

746
00:34:48,909 --> 00:34:43,740
very weird UFO flap I mean people

747
00:34:53,089 --> 00:34:48,919
um going out of flying saucers going to

748
00:34:56,089 --> 00:34:53,099
meeting Farmers under Farmland the

749
00:34:59,690 --> 00:34:56,099
farmers getting scared launching attack

750
00:35:02,450 --> 00:34:59,700
dogs to them the little people going to

751
00:35:05,150 --> 00:35:02,460
hide inside through on top of trees to

752
00:35:07,130 --> 00:35:05,160
escape the dogs the farmers shooting at

753
00:35:09,950 --> 00:35:07,140
them believing it was the return of the

754
00:35:13,069 --> 00:35:09,960
second world war so it was a pretty

755
00:35:14,770 --> 00:35:13,079
messy stuff in France so that's why the

756
00:35:18,530 --> 00:35:14,780
French Air Force

757
00:35:20,450 --> 00:35:18,540
acted that fast we had a trauma about it

758
00:35:22,609 --> 00:35:20,460
about the song on World War because we

759
00:35:26,089 --> 00:35:22,619
lost the war in one month because

760
00:35:29,270 --> 00:35:26,099
Belgium didn't want our defensive line

761
00:35:32,890 --> 00:35:29,280
to go along the borders so we

762
00:35:36,530 --> 00:35:32,900
let's see Germany just get around

763
00:35:39,530 --> 00:35:36,540
footballer and our French Air Force was

764
00:35:42,770 --> 00:35:39,540
decimated in the second world war so

765
00:35:46,010 --> 00:35:42,780
when we heard about UFO stuff in the 50s

766
00:35:53,510 --> 00:35:46,020
after being destroyed on Grand Island's

767
00:35:56,510 --> 00:35:55,130
what are uh

768
00:35:58,069 --> 00:35:56,520
uh what are some things that you're kind

769
00:36:00,410 --> 00:35:58,079
of paying really close attention to not

770
00:36:02,390 --> 00:36:00,420
only like in the near term this year

771
00:36:03,470 --> 00:36:02,400
with developments but uh the long term

772
00:36:05,329 --> 00:36:03,480
as well what are some things you're

773
00:36:10,370 --> 00:36:05,339
hoping to see

774
00:36:10,380 --> 00:36:16,490
so I see two ways

775
00:36:21,710 --> 00:36:18,829
and and it's only my opinion I have no

776
00:36:22,790 --> 00:36:21,720
4G no special knowledge it's just what I

777
00:36:26,750 --> 00:36:22,800
see

778
00:36:29,589 --> 00:36:26,760
the first way would be and it was an

779
00:36:33,829 --> 00:36:29,599
idea from a friend of mine in Germany

780
00:36:34,910 --> 00:36:33,839
that wrote UAP theory.com

781
00:36:37,490 --> 00:36:34,920
um

782
00:36:40,370 --> 00:36:37,500
the this everybody is waiting for the

783
00:36:43,069 --> 00:36:40,380
NASA to announce they discovered traces

784
00:36:46,910 --> 00:36:43,079
of Life anywhere and we know that there

785
00:36:49,430 --> 00:36:46,920
were a publication that has been blocked

786
00:36:51,109 --> 00:36:49,440
um because they are not sturdy enough to

787
00:36:53,150 --> 00:36:51,119
public reveal and they could be

788
00:36:56,829 --> 00:36:53,160
criticized because it's not direct

789
00:37:00,230 --> 00:36:56,839
knowledge it's an expiration of data

790
00:37:02,030 --> 00:37:00,240
so maybe everybody on earth is waiting

791
00:37:04,329 --> 00:37:02,040
for that thing that is absolutely

792
00:37:06,589 --> 00:37:04,339
indisputable like having a plant

793
00:37:10,910 --> 00:37:06,599
photographed by

794
00:37:12,849 --> 00:37:10,920
um opportunity on Mars right so okay

795
00:37:16,550 --> 00:37:12,859
it's a plant it's living

796
00:37:19,490 --> 00:37:16,560
okay right yeah it happened

797
00:37:22,310 --> 00:37:19,500
um and I think at that point everybody

798
00:37:23,930 --> 00:37:22,320
will realize we are not alone there is

799
00:37:27,589 --> 00:37:23,940
something else living

800
00:37:29,630 --> 00:37:27,599
people that have the keys to the secrets

801
00:37:32,390 --> 00:37:29,640
will assess the situation how do people

802
00:37:35,810 --> 00:37:32,400
react with their craziness in the air do

803
00:37:38,690 --> 00:37:35,820
they maintain themselves on us and if

804
00:37:40,970 --> 00:37:38,700
they maintain themselves they will

805
00:37:44,150 --> 00:37:40,980
release information at that point slowly

806
00:37:47,450 --> 00:37:44,160
around on on a 10 years program I think

807
00:37:51,710 --> 00:37:47,460
something like that something to go easy

808
00:37:55,670 --> 00:37:51,720
the other part is that melon and it is

809
00:38:00,410 --> 00:37:55,680
on those win they managed to have enough

810
00:38:02,530 --> 00:38:00,420
political Powers by the way of gilibrand

811
00:38:07,190 --> 00:38:02,540
Marco Rubio

812
00:38:09,410 --> 00:38:07,200
and Geico to to bend the will of the

813
00:38:13,069 --> 00:38:09,420
Department of Defense

814
00:38:16,970 --> 00:38:13,079
which is a pretty huge stuff I don't

815
00:38:19,130 --> 00:38:16,980
know if people realize how hard it is

816
00:38:22,310 --> 00:38:19,140
and how amazing it is that they

817
00:38:26,930 --> 00:38:22,320
succeeded so far that

818
00:38:29,930 --> 00:38:26,940
they could win that way and give

819
00:38:31,609 --> 00:38:29,940
um a piece a handpiece you know when you

820
00:38:33,470 --> 00:38:31,619
you want to stop the struggle and you

821
00:38:36,470 --> 00:38:33,480
give a hands of the other one can shake

822
00:38:38,990 --> 00:38:36,480
it to make peace about something uh to

823
00:38:42,410 --> 00:38:39,000
to videod and say okay that topic you

824
00:38:45,890 --> 00:38:42,420
lost just forget about it we we and

825
00:38:48,650 --> 00:38:45,900
that's why you have that feeling of a

826
00:38:51,290 --> 00:38:48,660
blankets about the 70 years of history

827
00:38:55,130 --> 00:38:51,300
on the subjects because it's nasty stuff

828
00:38:57,589 --> 00:38:55,140
inside it's very very massive stuff just

829
00:38:59,750 --> 00:38:57,599
here the number of Lies set by doji

830
00:39:02,630 --> 00:38:59,760
about what he did

831
00:39:04,730 --> 00:39:02,640
if he lies but everything inside that

832
00:39:07,310 --> 00:39:04,740
area of time

833
00:39:10,250 --> 00:39:07,320
what he is hiding behind these lines

834
00:39:12,470 --> 00:39:10,260
that are already very very bad so there

835
00:39:14,390 --> 00:39:12,480
is a really nice Easter that happened in

836
00:39:18,290 --> 00:39:14,400
that era of time and it was not even

837
00:39:21,230 --> 00:39:18,300
protected by the uh the U.S law it was

838
00:39:24,890 --> 00:39:21,240
before the law that forbid operation on

839
00:39:26,870 --> 00:39:24,900
U.S citizen happened so they went really

840
00:39:29,510 --> 00:39:26,880
far to anyone

841
00:39:32,390 --> 00:39:29,520
that he's questioning that go look at

842
00:39:34,550 --> 00:39:32,400
the MK Ultra project and what happened

843
00:39:37,670 --> 00:39:34,560
to Young students that were enlisting in

844
00:39:40,250 --> 00:39:37,680
universities and it's just horrible it's

845
00:39:43,069 --> 00:39:40,260
just horrible what happened and it was

846
00:39:46,069 --> 00:39:43,079
because they thought they needed it for

847
00:39:48,290 --> 00:39:46,079
the Cold War so imagine the level of

848
00:39:52,310 --> 00:39:48,300
secrecy we could have developed for

849
00:39:59,329 --> 00:39:56,349
I I just I just use public historical

850
00:40:02,510 --> 00:39:59,339
data and extrapolate it to something

851
00:40:05,630 --> 00:40:02,520
even bigger as UFOs and it would have

852
00:40:08,690 --> 00:40:05,640
made scared shitless even the strongest

853
00:40:10,849 --> 00:40:08,700
military you have vectors you can you

854
00:40:13,730 --> 00:40:10,859
have potential nuclear vectors that can

855
00:40:16,609 --> 00:40:13,740
appear instantly in the air

856
00:40:18,589 --> 00:40:16,619
above your bases you can't detect them

857
00:40:20,810 --> 00:40:18,599
you can't intercept them and they

858
00:40:23,089 --> 00:40:20,820
disable your nuclear weapons

859
00:40:25,370 --> 00:40:23,099
how do you want to scare more military

860
00:40:28,609 --> 00:40:25,380
men than that

861
00:40:30,829 --> 00:40:28,619
right yeah exactly uh DJ I got you one

862
00:40:34,790 --> 00:40:30,839
welcome to the show bud

863
00:40:37,490 --> 00:40:34,800
hey how's it going guys hi back please

864
00:40:39,109 --> 00:40:37,500
let's go hello how are you

865
00:40:40,970 --> 00:40:39,119
I'm doing good I had to wait for the

866
00:40:43,310 --> 00:40:40,980
super bike race to end those bikes are

867
00:40:44,569 --> 00:40:43,320
the loudest and uh I didn't think I

868
00:40:46,970 --> 00:40:44,579
could get away from them and my

869
00:40:49,490 --> 00:40:46,980
batteries nearly dead but I certainly

870
00:40:51,410 --> 00:40:49,500
have enough to to say hello to you guys

871
00:40:53,810 --> 00:40:51,420
how how's it going

872
00:40:56,030 --> 00:40:53,820
it's going great uh Deb was able to ask

873
00:40:59,810 --> 00:40:56,040
a uh a Sasquatch question about about

874
00:41:03,250 --> 00:41:01,550
I know I owe you buddy

875
00:41:06,109 --> 00:41:03,260
buddy

876
00:41:08,630 --> 00:41:06,119
yeah we have to get into the depth of

877
00:41:12,290 --> 00:41:08,640
that though because the answer was it

878
00:41:14,710 --> 00:41:12,300
may not just be Cryptid yeah yeah I was

879
00:41:16,910 --> 00:41:14,720
gonna ask you so good yeah please

880
00:41:19,370 --> 00:41:16,920
I was gonna follow on that yeah so I

881
00:41:21,109 --> 00:41:19,380
wanted to know Baptista are the

882
00:41:23,750 --> 00:41:21,119
sightings uh that you're familiar with

883
00:41:26,390 --> 00:41:23,760
in France related to Sasquatch are they

884
00:41:29,890 --> 00:41:26,400
uh kind of all over the country are they

885
00:41:32,690 --> 00:41:29,900
primarily at certain regions uh

886
00:41:35,870 --> 00:41:32,700
same stuff people working inside the

887
00:41:38,450 --> 00:41:35,880
forests or close to the limit of a

888
00:41:40,630 --> 00:41:38,460
forest and seeing something well or

889
00:41:43,130 --> 00:41:40,640
hearing voices

890
00:41:45,470 --> 00:41:43,140
or losing control of themselves what

891
00:41:48,770 --> 00:41:45,480
what politics described there were

892
00:41:51,050 --> 00:41:48,780
pretty much exactly the same thing

893
00:41:54,050 --> 00:41:51,060
that's why I don't think it's Bigfoot

894
00:41:55,130 --> 00:41:54,060
because uh if you if you think it's a

895
00:41:58,910 --> 00:41:55,140
Cryptid

896
00:42:00,109 --> 00:41:58,920
uh we have similar species but there are

897
00:42:02,569 --> 00:42:00,119
different

898
00:42:03,849 --> 00:42:02,579
um appearances the physical appearances

899
00:42:14,930 --> 00:42:03,859
of

900
00:42:19,250 --> 00:42:14,940
European population to colonize the US

901
00:42:21,890 --> 00:42:19,260
was the myth that the true myth the

902
00:42:23,750 --> 00:42:21,900
legend that was being spread that

903
00:42:29,030 --> 00:42:23,760
everything was bigger in the US because

904
00:42:32,230 --> 00:42:29,040
you had bigger your game for hunting you

905
00:42:36,770 --> 00:42:32,240
have bigger land bigger crops

906
00:42:39,950 --> 00:42:36,780
and that would be very weird to not see

907
00:42:42,349 --> 00:42:39,960
that inside the Cryptid mm-hmm

908
00:42:44,990 --> 00:42:42,359
right that's a good point so do you

909
00:42:47,930 --> 00:42:45,000
think there's kind of more of a like a a

910
00:42:50,450 --> 00:42:47,940
paranormal paranormal component to the

911
00:42:53,450 --> 00:42:50,460
date Bigfoot sightings then

912
00:42:55,370 --> 00:42:53,460
we have a whole book of accounts but I

913
00:42:56,210 --> 00:42:55,380
don't I don't have itching paper I have

914
00:42:58,010 --> 00:42:56,220
it

915
00:43:00,349 --> 00:42:58,020
um about

916
00:43:03,950 --> 00:43:00,359
um Close Encounters and in Close

917
00:43:05,329 --> 00:43:03,960
Encounters you there is a the theater

918
00:43:08,030 --> 00:43:05,339
effect

919
00:43:10,190 --> 00:43:08,040
there is something wrong with the logic

920
00:43:13,190 --> 00:43:10,200
of the situation and it's like you are

921
00:43:15,290 --> 00:43:13,200
inside a dream like stance where you

922
00:43:19,069 --> 00:43:15,300
don't really questions how logical

923
00:43:21,550 --> 00:43:19,079
things happen to you what value describe

924
00:43:24,170 --> 00:43:21,560
um as a trickster there is something

925
00:43:26,450 --> 00:43:24,180
absurd in the Clown's close encounter

926
00:43:28,910 --> 00:43:26,460
what they just don't talk to us and

927
00:43:32,510 --> 00:43:28,920
explain and we want we understand they

928
00:43:36,650 --> 00:43:32,520
have to invent star systems that don't

929
00:43:39,890 --> 00:43:36,660
exist or right um weird planets we are

930
00:43:43,190 --> 00:43:39,900
say they bring the the witness and if it

931
00:43:44,390 --> 00:43:43,200
is a story that is really dreamlike so I

932
00:43:47,690 --> 00:43:44,400
think there is

933
00:43:50,329 --> 00:43:47,700
um a passage perception part that is

934
00:43:53,569 --> 00:43:50,339
escaping most people you need to

935
00:43:57,290 --> 00:43:53,579
understand that you have very very

936
00:44:01,250 --> 00:43:57,300
shitty senses you don't see reality

937
00:44:04,130 --> 00:44:01,260
right your eyes has only three colors

938
00:44:06,050 --> 00:44:04,140
you can see blue green and red but Soul

939
00:44:08,870 --> 00:44:06,060
everything else is created it in your

940
00:44:11,809 --> 00:44:08,880
brain you always have one second delay

941
00:44:17,210 --> 00:44:14,329
to everything that happens around you

942
00:44:19,069 --> 00:44:17,220
the time your brain need to process all

943
00:44:20,930 --> 00:44:19,079
the information that is happening but

944
00:44:23,030 --> 00:44:20,940
that's why you're surprised of something

945
00:44:26,089 --> 00:44:23,040
that's why you think

946
00:44:30,069 --> 00:44:26,099
um you can't catch a fly it's because

947
00:44:33,829 --> 00:44:30,079
the the brain of the fly is so small

948
00:44:37,010 --> 00:44:33,839
it's it thinks three times faster than

949
00:44:42,829 --> 00:44:39,770
reality what you feel about reality is

950
00:44:45,290 --> 00:44:42,839
an illusion created in your brain in

951
00:44:48,430 --> 00:44:45,300
cases of Madness it's a part of your

952
00:44:51,589 --> 00:44:48,440
brain that takes control of what you see

953
00:44:55,069 --> 00:44:51,599
and makes you see something that isn't

954
00:44:58,370 --> 00:44:55,079
real for a verse but it is real for you

955
00:45:02,329 --> 00:44:58,380
that's what we call Madness right the

956
00:45:05,510 --> 00:45:02,339
mad person is is apart for a self

957
00:45:06,910 --> 00:45:05,520
it's mine compared to all viewers that

958
00:45:10,309 --> 00:45:06,920
don't see what

959
00:45:13,030 --> 00:45:10,319
her see she says

960
00:45:15,410 --> 00:45:13,040
so I think there is a vast

961
00:45:19,490 --> 00:45:15,420
misunderstanding about what is

962
00:45:21,890 --> 00:45:19,500
perception and how brain creates that

963
00:45:24,609 --> 00:45:21,900
perception if you have a high enough

964
00:45:28,329 --> 00:45:24,619
level of Technology where you can

965
00:45:31,730 --> 00:45:28,339
pinpoint which neuron in the pathway

966
00:45:34,970 --> 00:45:31,740
modifies which information

967
00:45:37,550 --> 00:45:34,980
you can do anything you want and I go

968
00:45:40,190 --> 00:45:37,560
back again to the MK Ultra experiments

969
00:45:42,010 --> 00:45:40,200
that were literally to modify the

970
00:45:47,930 --> 00:45:42,020
perception of a subject of a situation

971
00:45:54,410 --> 00:45:50,870
DJ had a follow-up

972
00:45:57,710 --> 00:45:54,420
uh yes it just had to open my my guess

973
00:46:01,609 --> 00:45:57,720
um one thing if I use the intelligences

974
00:46:03,589 --> 00:46:01,619
that that visit us uh and have abducted

975
00:46:05,990 --> 00:46:03,599
people or have appeared in their home

976
00:46:08,870 --> 00:46:06,000
and not abducted people and then I

977
00:46:11,030 --> 00:46:08,880
contrast that against what Nathan and I

978
00:46:13,069 --> 00:46:11,040
have discovered is you know right now

979
00:46:14,510 --> 00:46:13,079
we're sitting on about you know 13 or

980
00:46:16,730 --> 00:46:14,520
1400

981
00:46:18,770 --> 00:46:16,740
first person encounters with this

982
00:46:20,030 --> 00:46:18,780
creature in the forest Hunters hikers

983
00:46:22,370 --> 00:46:20,040
campers

984
00:46:25,370 --> 00:46:22,380
the diff one of the differences is that

985
00:46:27,290 --> 00:46:25,380
some of these people have found where

986
00:46:29,990 --> 00:46:27,300
the creatures are bedded down and they

987
00:46:32,690 --> 00:46:30,000
can see where they've made a bed they

988
00:46:35,030 --> 00:46:32,700
have found the dung that they say looks

989
00:46:36,829 --> 00:46:35,040
similar to a Foster's lager can for

990
00:46:38,329 --> 00:46:36,839
those of you who've had those gigantic

991
00:46:40,609 --> 00:46:38,339
beers

992
00:46:43,970 --> 00:46:40,619
um they have seen them in the family

993
00:46:47,990 --> 00:46:43,980
unit toddlers being held in their

994
00:46:49,670 --> 00:46:48,000
mother's arms and and so while I have

995
00:46:51,290 --> 00:46:49,680
not decided whether or not I think this

996
00:46:53,270 --> 00:46:51,300
is an interdimensional creature or not I

997
00:46:55,670 --> 00:46:53,280
think it's I'm not that I should I don't

998
00:46:57,410 --> 00:46:55,680
even have an opinion yet I mean I had

999
00:46:58,730 --> 00:46:57,420
one opinion I changed my opinion so

1000
00:47:00,530 --> 00:46:58,740
right now I think I just need to not

1001
00:47:05,030 --> 00:47:00,540
have an opinion but I will say this

1002
00:47:08,870 --> 00:47:05,040
there is a uh a little bit of a gap

1003
00:47:12,829 --> 00:47:08,880
between what we have seen relative to

1004
00:47:15,050 --> 00:47:12,839
real actual creature humanoid creature

1005
00:47:19,250 --> 00:47:15,060
living in the woods subsisting in the

1006
00:47:23,870 --> 00:47:19,260
woods hunting deer uh grabbing calves

1007
00:47:25,730 --> 00:47:23,880
out of uh Farmers uh pens uh eating out

1008
00:47:26,870 --> 00:47:25,740
of people's vegetable gardens that does

1009
00:47:31,370 --> 00:47:26,880
not exist

1010
00:47:34,550 --> 00:47:31,380
with the phenomenon that that uh to not

1011
00:47:36,829 --> 00:47:34,560
necessarily use all the same uh foods

1012
00:47:39,650 --> 00:47:36,839
and so on that we do so I think we're

1013
00:47:42,230 --> 00:47:39,660
I'm leaning towards you know a

1014
00:47:44,089 --> 00:47:42,240
terrestrial mammal but I'm certainly

1015
00:47:45,589 --> 00:47:44,099
open to changing my mind because I've

1016
00:47:49,490 --> 00:47:45,599
already gone back and forth at least

1017
00:47:54,290 --> 00:47:51,050
the

1018
00:47:58,490 --> 00:47:54,300
I think you need to to have if I may a

1019
00:48:03,170 --> 00:48:01,430
very few problems are simple

1020
00:48:06,470 --> 00:48:03,180
there is a way

1021
00:48:08,270 --> 00:48:06,480
um two phases of one coin

1022
00:48:11,030 --> 00:48:08,280
I think that there is another lap

1023
00:48:14,990 --> 00:48:11,040
between two feminomenal

1024
00:48:16,930 --> 00:48:15,000
one that is a being that is an

1025
00:48:19,970 --> 00:48:16,940
Undiscovered specie

1026
00:48:21,770 --> 00:48:19,980
viewer is a phenomenon that is able to

1027
00:48:24,530 --> 00:48:21,780
mimic

1028
00:48:27,109 --> 00:48:24,540
some fingers anything else we have

1029
00:48:28,370 --> 00:48:27,119
reports of UFOs mimicking the shape of

1030
00:48:32,510 --> 00:48:28,380
aircrafts

1031
00:48:35,329 --> 00:48:32,520
we have witness describing CEO of UFO in

1032
00:48:36,730 --> 00:48:35,339
the air changing shapes and turning each

1033
00:48:38,589 --> 00:48:36,740
into into

1034
00:48:40,370 --> 00:48:38,599
a

1035
00:48:42,109 --> 00:48:40,380
flying jet

1036
00:48:46,190 --> 00:48:42,119
um

1037
00:48:48,170 --> 00:48:46,200
we are close encounters where most of

1038
00:48:51,170 --> 00:48:48,180
the people described in Close Encounters

1039
00:48:54,890 --> 00:48:51,180
are human-like

1040
00:48:57,250 --> 00:48:54,900
which is very interesting 60 percent of

1041
00:49:01,970 --> 00:48:57,260
Close Encounters Witness

1042
00:49:04,670 --> 00:49:01,980
describe a human talking to them

1043
00:49:09,470 --> 00:49:04,680
so there is of course an ability to

1044
00:49:12,290 --> 00:49:09,480
mimic us which is very well fought we do

1045
00:49:15,230 --> 00:49:12,300
the same when we want to study yanaz we

1046
00:49:18,470 --> 00:49:15,240
create a robot that looks like Rihanna

1047
00:49:20,630 --> 00:49:18,480
so it can go inside the nest without

1048
00:49:24,170 --> 00:49:20,640
being destroyed

1049
00:49:27,410 --> 00:49:24,180
we have very weird reports that are that

1050
00:49:31,069 --> 00:49:27,420
have been today by David polides that

1051
00:49:34,849 --> 00:49:31,079
describe UFOs landing and Sasquatch

1052
00:49:37,190 --> 00:49:34,859
going out of it and going to the forest

1053
00:49:39,950 --> 00:49:37,200
so I think that that you have a

1054
00:49:44,030 --> 00:49:39,960
phenomenon that can mimic anything it

1055
00:49:47,829 --> 00:49:44,040
wants to study which is wrong of what

1056
00:49:50,150 --> 00:49:47,839
Bigelow says they are under our noses

1057
00:49:52,250 --> 00:49:50,160
yeah I want to say that I share your

1058
00:49:54,470 --> 00:49:52,260
philosophy actually the the cabbies have

1059
00:49:57,470 --> 00:49:54,480
heard me say on many of occasions it's

1060
00:50:00,290 --> 00:49:57,480
not necessarily this or that it is

1061
00:50:02,329 --> 00:50:00,300
perhaps this and that and I've said that

1062
00:50:04,250 --> 00:50:02,339
these guys have probably heard me say

1063
00:50:06,410 --> 00:50:04,260
that more than they wish they did so I

1064
00:50:08,270 --> 00:50:06,420
do agree with you on that so we I think

1065
00:50:11,930 --> 00:50:08,280
we share that opinion I probably didn't

1066
00:50:14,990 --> 00:50:11,940
express myself uh completely but I I

1067
00:50:17,569 --> 00:50:15,000
agree with you it it it can be this and

1068
00:50:19,970 --> 00:50:17,579
that I miss merely I think what I was

1069
00:50:22,370 --> 00:50:19,980
trying to say and not the set of

1070
00:50:24,349 --> 00:50:22,380
expressive particularly well is that

1071
00:50:27,470 --> 00:50:24,359
there are certain types of encounters

1072
00:50:29,630 --> 00:50:27,480
that humans have had uh being physically

1073
00:50:31,910 --> 00:50:29,640
struck by the creature one a couple of

1074
00:50:34,069 --> 00:50:31,920
fishermen in Ohio one of them threw

1075
00:50:37,309 --> 00:50:34,079
rocks at it and was physically struck so

1076
00:50:40,609 --> 00:50:37,319
they're just some you know some more

1077
00:50:42,770 --> 00:50:40,619
terrestrial uh uh happenings but I I

1078
00:50:46,190 --> 00:50:42,780
don't I don't deny that there could have

1079
00:50:48,170 --> 00:50:46,200
also be an interdimensional component in

1080
00:50:51,589 --> 00:50:48,180
addition to that

1081
00:50:53,630 --> 00:50:51,599
and there is the last part there is a

1082
00:50:56,870 --> 00:50:53,640
first stage in the Venn diagram we are

1083
00:51:01,309 --> 00:50:56,880
drawing is that you the human brain is

1084
00:51:03,650 --> 00:51:01,319
perfectly able to lie to itself if you

1085
00:51:06,049 --> 00:51:03,660
see something that you don't want to

1086
00:51:07,609 --> 00:51:06,059
exist your brain will cover it with

1087
00:51:09,010 --> 00:51:07,619
something else

1088
00:51:15,049 --> 00:51:09,020
so

1089
00:51:19,849 --> 00:51:15,059
is under it and you need to pass the

1090
00:51:23,510 --> 00:51:22,609
yeah no for sure I mean it the level of

1091
00:51:25,730 --> 00:51:23,520
uh

1092
00:51:29,690 --> 00:51:25,740
intelligence that we see in the

1093
00:51:30,609 --> 00:51:29,700
phenomena routinely seems to uh indicate

1094
00:51:33,230 --> 00:51:30,619
that

1095
00:51:36,589 --> 00:51:33,240
it's allowing us to see it in a certain

1096
00:51:39,109 --> 00:51:36,599
way uh you know that we

1097
00:51:40,970 --> 00:51:39,119
um as you said very well eloquently we

1098
00:51:43,790 --> 00:51:40,980
are changing the way we perceive it

1099
00:51:47,150 --> 00:51:43,800
because of our filter the filter way we

1100
00:51:48,589 --> 00:51:47,160
filter in data of our own perception

1101
00:51:50,809 --> 00:51:48,599
um it definitely raises a lot of

1102
00:51:53,329 --> 00:51:50,819
interesting questions and DJI I I agree

1103
00:51:55,690 --> 00:51:53,339
it's uh it's quite peculiar

1104
00:51:58,010 --> 00:51:55,700
um particularly if these creatures are

1105
00:52:01,069 --> 00:51:58,020
uh you know just sort of setting a shop

1106
00:52:03,710 --> 00:52:01,079
in our forests around the world uh you

1107
00:52:05,450 --> 00:52:03,720
know could it imply that um you know if

1108
00:52:09,109 --> 00:52:05,460
they if there is some sort of phenomenal

1109
00:52:10,670 --> 00:52:09,119
connection there that they uh you know

1110
00:52:13,190 --> 00:52:10,680
are just sort of stationed here in other

1111
00:52:15,829 --> 00:52:13,200
words for lack of a better term

1112
00:52:17,510 --> 00:52:15,839
um or uh or it's all interconnected on

1113
00:52:20,690 --> 00:52:17,520
some sort of more fundamental longer

1114
00:52:21,950 --> 00:52:20,700
lasting ultra-terrestrial type of deeper

1115
00:52:24,170 --> 00:52:21,960
level

1116
00:52:25,849 --> 00:52:24,180
um but I guess that kind of gets us to a

1117
00:52:27,170 --> 00:52:25,859
good a good question as we kind of Veer

1118
00:52:30,230 --> 00:52:27,180
toward the end of the show but you know

1119
00:52:32,510 --> 00:52:30,240
Baptiste do you have a uh kind of a a

1120
00:52:34,010 --> 00:52:32,520
leading hypothesis about you know

1121
00:52:35,990 --> 00:52:34,020
something that you're particularly drawn

1122
00:52:37,549 --> 00:52:36,000
to on the hypothesis on the phenomenon

1123
00:52:39,109 --> 00:52:37,559
it's something that you know you think

1124
00:52:40,670 --> 00:52:39,119
is the most compelling way to look at

1125
00:52:43,309 --> 00:52:40,680
the information

1126
00:52:46,250 --> 00:52:43,319
uh I think it's the worst problem of

1127
00:52:48,410 --> 00:52:46,260
this topic to to either an hypothesis

1128
00:52:50,750 --> 00:52:48,420
means you have a way to test it

1129
00:52:53,930 --> 00:52:50,760
yeah you don't have hypothesis you have

1130
00:52:57,290 --> 00:52:53,940
ideas sure and ideas are your worst in

1131
00:52:59,450 --> 00:52:57,300
me in science because you prepare what

1132
00:53:03,170 --> 00:52:59,460
you want to see in the data

1133
00:53:04,970 --> 00:53:03,180
so I refuse to have ideas about that

1134
00:53:07,430 --> 00:53:04,980
subjects until I have something in my

1135
00:53:09,770 --> 00:53:07,440
hand and once I will have something in

1136
00:53:12,290 --> 00:53:09,780
my end exactly what is Valerian Nolan

1137
00:53:14,270 --> 00:53:12,300
doing but yeah they have something in

1138
00:53:17,089 --> 00:53:14,280
their hand they are studying it

1139
00:53:21,410 --> 00:53:17,099
that's the way to go and you let the

1140
00:53:24,069 --> 00:53:21,420
data speak what we saw in the data we

1141
00:53:29,470 --> 00:53:24,079
saw that it wasn't

1142
00:53:34,190 --> 00:53:29,480
an obtain a material to to get

1143
00:53:36,109 --> 00:53:34,200
a coast to coast reference it's

1144
00:53:39,710 --> 00:53:36,119
materials

1145
00:53:42,829 --> 00:53:39,720
what is where is the balance of Isotopes

1146
00:53:45,470 --> 00:53:42,839
inside it meaning it has been engineered

1147
00:53:49,069 --> 00:53:45,480
and it has been engineered in a way that

1148
00:53:51,770 --> 00:53:49,079
doesn't make sense to us I mean it would

1149
00:53:55,670 --> 00:53:51,780
cost a tremendous amount of resources

1150
00:53:58,430 --> 00:53:55,680
for in 1950s do these Isotopes and they

1151
00:54:00,049 --> 00:53:58,440
don't have any use at all

1152
00:54:02,809 --> 00:54:00,059
for us

1153
00:54:05,750 --> 00:54:02,819
so it's really really weird but the

1154
00:54:08,329 --> 00:54:05,760
components could have been made on Earth

1155
00:54:10,490 --> 00:54:08,339
they aren't that different from what you

1156
00:54:13,849 --> 00:54:10,500
find on Earth they have been engineered

1157
00:54:17,930 --> 00:54:13,859
which is a very interesting piece of

1158
00:54:19,329 --> 00:54:17,940
data if it can generalize that statement

1159
00:54:24,049 --> 00:54:19,339
it's not

1160
00:54:26,510 --> 00:54:24,059
a black dwarf materials used to have a

1161
00:54:28,250 --> 00:54:26,520
very strong structure no no it's just

1162
00:54:30,290 --> 00:54:28,260
normal stuff you can find on the ground

1163
00:54:32,630 --> 00:54:30,300
and you put it in a nuclear reactor

1164
00:54:34,970 --> 00:54:32,640
under a certain constraints and it gives

1165
00:54:36,710 --> 00:54:34,980
a good ratio of Isotopes or your

1166
00:54:39,130 --> 00:54:36,720
technology

1167
00:54:43,250 --> 00:54:39,140
and I don't know why

1168
00:54:47,089 --> 00:54:43,260
not it's it starts that sexy it's not

1169
00:54:48,950 --> 00:54:47,099
like a big space Chic like a grandma uh

1170
00:54:52,490 --> 00:54:48,960
coming from another galaxy and meeting

1171
00:54:54,290 --> 00:54:52,500
us with uh Flags or around no it's not

1172
00:54:56,930 --> 00:54:54,300
it's not that way it's not that sexy

1173
00:55:01,490 --> 00:54:56,940
each piece of rock but uh slightly

1174
00:55:04,790 --> 00:55:01,500
different but what we have but it is

1175
00:55:06,829 --> 00:55:04,800
important to wait the information there

1176
00:55:10,970 --> 00:55:06,839
is inside that

1177
00:55:14,690 --> 00:55:10,980
it doesn't may it it wasn't made far

1178
00:55:14,700 --> 00:55:17,210
right

1179
00:55:21,530 --> 00:55:18,770
so I actually

1180
00:55:23,150 --> 00:55:21,540
um heard you talk about this before

1181
00:55:25,430 --> 00:55:23,160
um you were talking about the potential

1182
00:55:27,530 --> 00:55:25,440
of this being something that is evolving

1183
00:55:29,750 --> 00:55:27,540
alongside us

1184
00:55:31,790 --> 00:55:29,760
um using resources on the planet and so

1185
00:55:35,150 --> 00:55:31,800
forth and I feel like the only thing

1186
00:55:37,130 --> 00:55:35,160
that is really consistent is the orbs

1187
00:55:39,890 --> 00:55:37,140
um the orbs that which basically could

1188
00:55:42,410 --> 00:55:39,900
be you know who knew anything from a

1189
00:55:45,230 --> 00:55:42,420
ball of energy to I don't know you know

1190
00:55:47,270 --> 00:55:45,240
something we can't even fathom so I just

1191
00:55:49,430 --> 00:55:47,280
wanted to follow up on what you think

1192
00:55:53,329 --> 00:55:49,440
about that and so if you wanted to

1193
00:55:55,849 --> 00:55:53,339
expound on that Evolution concept

1194
00:55:58,130 --> 00:55:55,859
so first we do to Define what you you

1195
00:56:00,230 --> 00:55:58,140
called offs because there is a very big

1196
00:56:03,890 --> 00:56:00,240
misunderstanding about that

1197
00:56:05,329 --> 00:56:03,900
so I I dislike orbs uh I I prefer

1198
00:56:10,130 --> 00:56:05,339
signals

1199
00:56:11,089 --> 00:56:10,140
are like magic stuff I don't like magic

1200
00:56:14,569 --> 00:56:11,099
stuff

1201
00:56:19,010 --> 00:56:14,579
in the 3af sigma 2 report published in

1202
00:56:22,150 --> 00:56:19,020
2021 you have a whole area of science

1203
00:56:26,930 --> 00:56:22,160
that has been discovered that has

1204
00:56:30,530 --> 00:56:26,940
atmospheric plasmas and they do really

1205
00:56:33,170 --> 00:56:30,540
really weird stuff I mean stuff we don't

1206
00:56:35,870 --> 00:56:33,180
understand we saw them we know it's

1207
00:56:39,049 --> 00:56:35,880
natural it's not technological and it's

1208
00:56:41,390 --> 00:56:39,059
really really weird like in the last SEO

1209
00:56:43,370 --> 00:56:41,400
conference Rich of man described

1210
00:56:44,290 --> 00:56:43,380
studying

1211
00:56:51,170 --> 00:56:44,300
um

1212
00:56:55,609 --> 00:56:51,180
level unstagnant meaning a ball of light

1213
00:56:58,430 --> 00:56:55,619
that hovers but sunlight only in one way

1214
00:57:01,790 --> 00:56:58,440
which is impossible

1215
00:57:07,130 --> 00:57:04,970
so there is a whole area of physics we

1216
00:57:09,890 --> 00:57:07,140
start from the runs to understand that's

1217
00:57:12,470 --> 00:57:09,900
what it's called uaps there was a lot of

1218
00:57:15,790 --> 00:57:12,480
debates about what they call virtue APS

1219
00:57:18,829 --> 00:57:15,800
what not UFOs but uaps means anything

1220
00:57:22,010 --> 00:57:18,839
but you can't detect

1221
00:57:24,710 --> 00:57:22,020
UFOs mean flying objects it's not flying

1222
00:57:27,890 --> 00:57:24,720
it's not all the time objects and I

1223
00:57:30,470 --> 00:57:27,900
agree sometimes there are orbs that are

1224
00:57:33,049 --> 00:57:30,480
doing really weird stuff that seem

1225
00:57:34,250 --> 00:57:33,059
sentient I absolutely agree that the

1226
00:57:37,609 --> 00:57:34,260
problem is that we have the

1227
00:57:41,089 --> 00:57:37,619
technological level to do that you can

1228
00:57:44,750 --> 00:57:41,099
concentrate energy inside the hair at a

1229
00:57:47,270 --> 00:57:44,760
point where it emits light and it's a

1230
00:57:49,910 --> 00:57:47,280
shape of a ball it consumes a track

1231
00:57:52,970 --> 00:57:49,920
loads of energy which can do that and we

1232
00:57:54,890 --> 00:57:52,980
can do that since I think I was 14 years

1233
00:57:56,030 --> 00:57:54,900
old the first time I read an article

1234
00:58:00,230 --> 00:57:56,040
about that

1235
00:58:03,230 --> 00:58:00,240
the Navy is patented to use it to use it

1236
00:58:05,690 --> 00:58:03,240
as a spoof for a massage tracking

1237
00:58:09,170 --> 00:58:05,700
infrared signatures

1238
00:58:12,829 --> 00:58:09,180
so I'm very cautious about using the

1239
00:58:15,950 --> 00:58:12,839
orbs as a whole I prefer to talk about

1240
00:58:18,349 --> 00:58:15,960
signals when it's emitting from a source

1241
00:58:21,410 --> 00:58:18,359
and if there is a type of code inside it

1242
00:58:25,309 --> 00:58:21,420
and we have many reports of that we have

1243
00:58:28,490 --> 00:58:25,319
many reports of signals being received

1244
00:58:30,589 --> 00:58:28,500
from Craft that vanished just after it

1245
00:58:32,030 --> 00:58:30,599
which is very interesting and nobody

1246
00:58:34,490 --> 00:58:32,040
talks about it but it is very

1247
00:58:35,930 --> 00:58:34,500
interesting in science we're working on

1248
00:58:38,450 --> 00:58:35,940
now because we're working on making

1249
00:58:43,210 --> 00:58:38,460
light from sound now

1250
00:58:45,710 --> 00:58:43,220
hmm interesting it was 20 years ago

1251
00:58:48,890 --> 00:58:45,720
seriously the technology is 20 years old

1252
00:58:52,190 --> 00:58:50,210
um

1253
00:58:54,650 --> 00:58:52,200
and I forgot the second part of your

1254
00:58:57,289 --> 00:58:54,660
question sorry no I just I was just the

1255
00:59:00,289 --> 00:58:57,299
idea that they're evolving alongside us

1256
00:59:02,809 --> 00:59:00,299
which kind of implies Ultra terrestrial

1257
00:59:05,150 --> 00:59:02,819
no I don't agree at all with that

1258
00:59:08,329 --> 00:59:05,160
exception I've

1259
00:59:12,410 --> 00:59:08,339
there is an old saying science

1260
00:59:14,630 --> 00:59:12,420
um if I don't need it I don't use it it

1261
00:59:17,089 --> 00:59:14,640
doesn't mean that everything is

1262
00:59:18,710 --> 00:59:17,099
supposedly we saw earlier that you need

1263
00:59:22,250 --> 00:59:18,720
to have complex models for complex

1264
00:59:25,309 --> 00:59:22,260
situations but when it is not needed I

1265
00:59:28,609 --> 00:59:25,319
tend to not use it do I need Ultra

1266
00:59:29,930 --> 00:59:28,619
terrestrial now we discovered 10 of our

1267
00:59:32,510 --> 00:59:29,940
oceans

1268
00:59:35,690 --> 00:59:32,520
even in ground do you know if a forest

1269
00:59:37,910 --> 00:59:35,700
near you have you work every centimeters

1270
00:59:40,549 --> 00:59:37,920
of the forest near you

1271
00:59:42,170 --> 00:59:40,559
I'm in Europe I go in the forest every

1272
00:59:44,450 --> 00:59:42,180
10 minutes 10 meters I have an

1273
00:59:46,910 --> 00:59:44,460
Undiscovered Runes of something

1274
00:59:49,490 --> 00:59:46,920
we have been there for 50 000 years

1275
00:59:53,450 --> 00:59:49,500
there are ruins everywhere same thing in

1276
00:59:56,510 --> 00:59:53,460
the US you had human population for 50

1277
00:59:58,910 --> 00:59:56,520
000 years you have the biggest wounds

1278
01:00:01,690 --> 00:59:58,920
complex on Earth

1279
01:00:08,030 --> 01:00:01,700
and people forgot that civilizations

1280
01:00:13,250 --> 01:00:10,190
yeah it's a it's a rich environment full

1281
01:00:15,410 --> 01:00:13,260
of uh relics and information it's kind

1282
01:00:17,630 --> 01:00:15,420
of always around us and we're you know

1283
01:00:19,789 --> 01:00:17,640
we make these discoveries and in a way

1284
01:00:21,170 --> 01:00:19,799
where our surprise is a little bit

1285
01:00:23,270 --> 01:00:21,180
surprising

1286
01:00:24,710 --> 01:00:23,280
you know that we're we're shocked to

1287
01:00:27,049 --> 01:00:24,720
find these things even though they've

1288
01:00:28,910 --> 01:00:27,059
been there uh we should expect to find

1289
01:00:31,309 --> 01:00:28,920
many of these things correct

1290
01:00:34,130 --> 01:00:31,319
um and it's a part of what

1291
01:00:37,789 --> 01:00:34,140
um you you hurt yourself by using the

1292
01:00:39,970 --> 01:00:37,799
Ancient Aliens because any true

1293
01:00:44,089 --> 01:00:39,980
archaeologists

1294
01:00:46,370 --> 01:00:44,099
no it was made by human hands it's just

1295
01:00:51,650 --> 01:00:46,380
that they are time

1296
01:00:55,329 --> 01:00:51,660
on their part we do stuff fast they had

1297
01:00:58,970 --> 01:00:55,339
centuries to build a temple

1298
01:01:02,750 --> 01:00:58,980
take your church in France the root of

1299
01:01:06,470 --> 01:01:02,760
the church is a thousand years old

1300
01:01:08,750 --> 01:01:06,480
and it's not even near what the Romans

1301
01:01:12,230 --> 01:01:08,760
did in Rome

1302
01:01:15,589 --> 01:01:12,240
in 30 years

1303
01:01:19,069 --> 01:01:15,599
we lose Technologies we don't require

1304
01:01:22,789 --> 01:01:19,079
all the time look at what the Egyptians

1305
01:01:26,089 --> 01:01:22,799
did in sculpting it's just amazing they

1306
01:01:29,569 --> 01:01:26,099
had nothing they are the technological

1307
01:01:34,309 --> 01:01:29,579
level of copper they have they had

1308
01:01:38,390 --> 01:01:34,319
points of copper to scratch the stone

1309
01:01:41,150 --> 01:01:38,400
and they did amazing works of details

1310
01:01:44,089 --> 01:01:41,160
because they spent the resources to do

1311
01:01:47,109 --> 01:01:44,099
it and it mattered to them now it's

1312
01:01:50,390 --> 01:01:47,119
really something I push against because

1313
01:01:52,430 --> 01:01:50,400
you are decrabitalizing yourself by

1314
01:01:55,670 --> 01:01:52,440
using the Ancient Aliens hypothesis

1315
01:01:58,069 --> 01:01:55,680
right it doesn't mean they weren't there

1316
01:02:00,349 --> 01:01:58,079
but do you see them today giving us

1317
01:02:01,150 --> 01:02:00,359
Technologies or showing us how to do

1318
01:02:04,430 --> 01:02:01,160
things

1319
01:02:06,410 --> 01:02:04,440
and nowhere in history it is written

1320
01:02:09,289 --> 01:02:06,420
somewhere nowhere

1321
01:02:13,549 --> 01:02:09,299
people want to search the archives of

1322
01:02:17,089 --> 01:02:13,559
the Vatican ask the Jews the Jews have

1323
01:02:20,690 --> 01:02:17,099
all their history far beyond what the

1324
01:02:26,569 --> 01:02:20,700
Vatican has for million years of oral

1325
01:02:28,430 --> 01:02:26,579
tradition they have zero about it zero

1326
01:02:30,950 --> 01:02:28,440
weird stuff

1327
01:02:34,549 --> 01:02:30,960
you see it in the fourth century when

1328
01:02:37,010 --> 01:02:34,559
the Quran is written and there you start

1329
01:02:40,250 --> 01:02:37,020
to see what we would call Modern UFOs

1330
01:02:43,609 --> 01:02:40,260
which is really interesting

1331
01:02:46,250 --> 01:02:43,619
why it isn't noticed anywhere else

1332
01:02:48,829 --> 01:02:46,260
modern UFOs I mean things in the sky

1333
01:02:50,030 --> 01:02:48,839
that seems to answer when you talk to

1334
01:02:53,569 --> 01:02:50,040
them

1335
01:02:56,390 --> 01:02:53,579
and it is written in the fourth century

1336
01:02:58,849 --> 01:02:56,400
so there is a progression of involvement

1337
01:03:01,970 --> 01:02:58,859
from the phenomenon towards us

1338
01:03:04,609 --> 01:03:01,980
and we could have very well been there

1339
01:03:06,470 --> 01:03:04,619
thousands of years ago doesn't mean that

1340
01:03:08,510 --> 01:03:06,480
they need to talk to us they don't talk

1341
01:03:12,770 --> 01:03:08,520
to us today what would they talk to us

1342
01:03:17,990 --> 01:03:15,170
yeah exactly well Deb anyone asking

1343
01:03:20,089 --> 01:03:18,000
about the uh upcoming conference yep I

1344
01:03:21,829 --> 01:03:20,099
had a heard a rumor that there's going

1345
01:03:23,510 --> 01:03:21,839
to be going to be a conference coming up

1346
01:03:25,549 --> 01:03:23,520
I was wondering if you were planning on

1347
01:03:27,109 --> 01:03:25,559
going or if you had any additional

1348
01:03:30,410 --> 01:03:27,119
information you could provide that it

1349
01:03:33,170 --> 01:03:30,420
would be it's I believe on the 13th and

1350
01:03:34,370 --> 01:03:33,180
14th of next month is that something

1351
01:03:37,010 --> 01:03:34,380
you've heard of

1352
01:03:41,329 --> 01:03:37,020
but it's not to remove

1353
01:03:42,470 --> 01:03:41,339
it was not Eden oh yeah I just was

1354
01:03:44,230 --> 01:03:42,480
wondering if you could tell us more

1355
01:03:48,829 --> 01:03:44,240
about it because I I don't know anything

1356
01:03:51,650 --> 01:03:48,839
ah so every few years with Japan creates

1357
01:03:54,370 --> 01:03:51,660
a big conference about uaps but

1358
01:03:56,690 --> 01:03:54,380
everything uaps from crafts to

1359
01:03:57,650 --> 01:03:56,700
atmospheric plasmas that I just talked

1360
01:04:00,589 --> 01:03:57,660
about

1361
01:04:05,210 --> 01:04:00,599
and it's called the kai band conference

1362
01:04:07,910 --> 01:04:05,220
about uaps and this year is the second

1363
01:04:10,910 --> 01:04:07,920
edition of the cap and it's the cap and

1364
01:04:17,569 --> 01:04:14,210
nice and will you be attending

1365
01:04:19,010 --> 01:04:17,579
uh I should be

1366
01:04:20,930 --> 01:04:19,020
excellent

1367
01:04:22,250 --> 01:04:20,940
or what else do you have coming up uh

1368
01:04:24,349 --> 01:04:22,260
and toward the end of the year do you

1369
01:04:26,349 --> 01:04:24,359
have some some shows on Explorer lab

1370
01:04:30,849 --> 01:04:26,359
what things are you working on right now

1371
01:04:33,410 --> 01:04:30,859
so time schedule is a problem I

1372
01:04:35,870 --> 01:04:33,420
improvise everything I don't plan her

1373
01:04:39,170 --> 01:04:35,880
head because I have very huge projects I

1374
01:04:40,789 --> 01:04:39,180
have in my work life some related to the

1375
01:04:43,670 --> 01:04:40,799
phenomenon so I'm not related to a

1376
01:04:46,010 --> 01:04:43,680
phenomenon and I give them priority and

1377
01:04:49,609 --> 01:04:46,020
I have a private life believe it or not

1378
01:04:51,589 --> 01:04:49,619
so you're allowed that yes what I do on

1379
01:04:54,950 --> 01:04:51,599
Twitter and when I do an Explorer lab is

1380
01:04:58,309 --> 01:04:54,960
the the last hour of my day when I have

1381
01:05:01,849 --> 01:04:58,319
enough energy to do something so that's

1382
01:05:04,670 --> 01:05:01,859
the way I work with it so it's not true

1383
01:05:07,910 --> 01:05:04,680
every burden for me to to work on

1384
01:05:11,150 --> 01:05:07,920
got it but I I don't plan anything ahead

1385
01:05:13,069 --> 01:05:11,160
got it cool well I really again want to

1386
01:05:14,990 --> 01:05:13,079
thank you for joining us today um I know

1387
01:05:16,789 --> 01:05:15,000
it's getting late over there and uh we

1388
01:05:18,710 --> 01:05:16,799
had a wonderful time chatting with you I

1389
01:05:22,190 --> 01:05:18,720
love your Insight I love the way you

1390
01:05:24,950 --> 01:05:22,200
look at the topic and to me it's uh it's

1391
01:05:27,410 --> 01:05:24,960
incredibly enriching to hear from

1392
01:05:30,170 --> 01:05:27,420
another perspective around the world and

1393
01:05:31,849 --> 01:05:30,180
and to in the US we kind of get this uh

1394
01:05:33,650 --> 01:05:31,859
we get blinders on thinking that it's

1395
01:05:35,690 --> 01:05:33,660
kind of Just Happening here but it's

1396
01:05:37,370 --> 01:05:35,700
obviously not and there's there's a rich

1397
01:05:39,530 --> 01:05:37,380
amount of information that's happening

1398
01:05:41,809 --> 01:05:39,540
uh throughout the world and and

1399
01:05:43,609 --> 01:05:41,819
excellent conversation to be had so I

1400
01:05:45,589 --> 01:05:43,619
literally applaud what you're doing in

1401
01:05:47,690 --> 01:05:45,599
raising that level of awareness and and

1402
01:05:49,609 --> 01:05:47,700
your willingness to kind of connect with

1403
01:05:51,410 --> 01:05:49,619
those of us over here and and have these

1404
01:05:54,230 --> 01:05:51,420
conversations it means a great deal so

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01:05:56,990 --> 01:05:54,240
thank you so much for all that uh let me

1406
01:06:00,890 --> 01:05:57,000
let me answer that yeah

1407
01:06:02,809 --> 01:06:00,900
what you are doing in the U.S is the

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01:06:05,270 --> 01:06:02,819
most important thing any human has ever

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01:06:07,730 --> 01:06:05,280
done for our species

1410
01:06:09,410 --> 01:06:07,740
there are a factions that don't want to

1411
01:06:11,630 --> 01:06:09,420
talk about this subject

1412
01:06:15,170 --> 01:06:11,640
you are the leader of the Free World

1413
01:06:17,870 --> 01:06:15,180
point and and the French hate that we

1414
01:06:21,109 --> 01:06:17,880
hate that it is not us we should be the

1415
01:06:24,529 --> 01:06:21,119
leader of a free world but you are you

1416
01:06:26,569 --> 01:06:24,539
are and you are pushing very strong on

1417
01:06:28,609 --> 01:06:26,579
that topic and I

1418
01:06:31,190 --> 01:06:28,619
you need to understand that there are

1419
01:06:33,950 --> 01:06:31,200
people that are trying to influence this

1420
01:06:38,930 --> 01:06:33,960
conversation and trying to slow it down

1421
01:06:41,569 --> 01:06:38,940
when you see something a content and

1422
01:06:44,210 --> 01:06:41,579
fundamentally doesn't add anything to a

1423
01:06:47,329 --> 01:06:44,220
subject doesn't show any new data

1424
01:06:49,609 --> 01:06:47,339
nothing just questions things freely

1425
01:06:52,789 --> 01:06:49,619
that's how you create a conspiracy

1426
01:06:55,490 --> 01:06:52,799
theory that's how you have been trapped

1427
01:06:59,390 --> 01:06:55,500
for 50 years since the end of Project

1428
01:07:03,470 --> 01:06:59,400
Blue Book they did the same trick on you

1429
01:07:04,789 --> 01:07:03,480
for 50 years and it works every time you

1430
01:07:07,370 --> 01:07:04,799
give a piece of information there

1431
01:07:08,930 --> 01:07:07,380
another piece of information there the

1432
01:07:10,609 --> 01:07:08,940
two seems contradiction because you

1433
01:07:13,490 --> 01:07:10,619
don't have the whole picture in head

1434
01:07:15,410 --> 01:07:13,500
right so you have factions fighting each

1435
01:07:16,670 --> 01:07:15,420
other and you have the people that have

1436
01:07:20,029 --> 01:07:16,680
the knowledge the whole picture

1437
01:07:21,950 --> 01:07:20,039
understand watching and waiting that you

1438
01:07:23,569 --> 01:07:21,960
die of old age

1439
01:07:28,730 --> 01:07:23,579
you need

1440
01:07:32,410 --> 01:07:28,740
and it's an absolute for our species

1441
01:07:37,250 --> 01:07:32,420
to fight for it and you are the only

1442
01:07:38,870 --> 01:07:37,260
nation in the world that is still truly

1443
01:07:41,870 --> 01:07:38,880
democratic

1444
01:07:43,430 --> 01:07:41,880
our system in France isn't a real

1445
01:07:45,789 --> 01:07:43,440
democracy

1446
01:07:49,190 --> 01:07:45,799
it's a kind of

1447
01:07:52,250 --> 01:07:49,200
balance dictatorship where we change

1448
01:07:55,609 --> 01:07:52,260
dictators every few years but the powers

1449
01:07:58,150 --> 01:07:55,619
we have given to our president are

1450
01:08:01,789 --> 01:07:58,160
astonishing

1451
01:08:04,609 --> 01:08:01,799
you are still a true democracy is it

1452
01:08:07,910 --> 01:08:04,619
correct of course every government every

1453
01:08:09,770 --> 01:08:07,920
human organization on Earth is corrupt

1454
01:08:12,289 --> 01:08:09,780
we are humans it doesn't mean he's

1455
01:08:15,230 --> 01:08:12,299
broken it means you need to fight for it

1456
01:08:19,189 --> 01:08:15,240
you have a part of your own government

1457
01:08:22,430 --> 01:08:19,199
paid by your taxes and uh in the U.S

1458
01:08:25,490 --> 01:08:22,440
paying taxes yeah that is manipulating

1459
01:08:26,450 --> 01:08:25,500
you into trying to make you quit the

1460
01:08:29,870 --> 01:08:26,460
fight

1461
01:08:32,749 --> 01:08:29,880
and he's spreading lies and half truths

1462
01:08:35,689 --> 01:08:32,759
to divert attention from them

1463
01:08:38,349 --> 01:08:35,699
it is really really important that every

1464
01:08:41,269 --> 01:08:38,359
part of your audience know how important

1465
01:08:44,930 --> 01:08:41,279
you as an American citizens

1466
01:08:47,269 --> 01:08:44,940
are important for the world debate

1467
01:08:48,890 --> 01:08:47,279
so thank you all

1468
01:08:52,010 --> 01:08:48,900
thank you

1469
01:08:54,829 --> 01:08:52,020
I really appreciate that Baptist but I

1470
01:08:57,470 --> 01:08:54,839
um I have to say that one of my goals is

1471
01:08:59,570 --> 01:08:57,480
to connect all of the information that

1472
01:09:01,189 --> 01:08:59,580
is available all over the world so that

1473
01:09:04,490 --> 01:09:01,199
we understand that this is a global

1474
01:09:05,870 --> 01:09:04,500
problem even if the US may appear to be

1475
01:09:07,370 --> 01:09:05,880
leading it

1476
01:09:08,870 --> 01:09:07,380
well although they will say that's

1477
01:09:10,789 --> 01:09:08,880
appearances who knows what's going on

1478
01:09:13,309 --> 01:09:10,799
with the five eyes behind closed doors

1479
01:09:16,070 --> 01:09:13,319
and the other eyes that are not

1480
01:09:18,349 --> 01:09:16,080
identified like Japan right who knows

1481
01:09:19,669 --> 01:09:18,359
but I I think we all have to work

1482
01:09:21,289 --> 01:09:19,679
together which is why I'm definitely

1483
01:09:24,430 --> 01:09:21,299
going to bug you for the link for that

1484
01:09:27,590 --> 01:09:24,440
report the um French aeronautical

1485
01:09:29,269 --> 01:09:27,600
Association report I want that now and I

1486
01:09:32,450 --> 01:09:29,279
thank you so much for all that you do

1487
01:09:34,550 --> 01:09:32,460
I'm definitely gonna um I'll keep

1488
01:09:37,130 --> 01:09:34,560
looking out for more information from

1489
01:09:38,630 --> 01:09:37,140
France um and I hope that you can let us

1490
01:09:40,249 --> 01:09:38,640
know what happens with that conference

1491
01:09:41,749 --> 01:09:40,259
and all that great stuff so thank you

1492
01:09:43,189 --> 01:09:41,759
again so much for what you're doing

1493
01:09:45,590 --> 01:09:43,199
because because there's not enough

1494
01:09:47,930 --> 01:09:45,600
voices coming out in the public in

1495
01:09:50,269 --> 01:09:47,940
France and I appreciate that you are

1496
01:09:53,090 --> 01:09:50,279
uh it has been a real pleasure you've

1497
01:09:54,950 --> 01:09:53,100
been adorable with me I you you try to

1498
01:09:57,590 --> 01:09:54,960
trick me with a Sasquatch but it's a I

1499
01:10:00,790 --> 01:09:57,600
I'm a huge fan of David polite's work so

1500
01:10:03,229 --> 01:10:00,800
you want to Corner me on on Sasquatch

1501
01:10:04,810 --> 01:10:03,239
you're a good sport to uh to talk about

1502
01:10:07,790 --> 01:10:04,820
it so thank you

1503
01:10:09,470 --> 01:10:07,800
uh it's fascinating well I want again

1504
01:10:11,270 --> 01:10:09,480
thank you for coming and thank all those

1505
01:10:13,310 --> 01:10:11,280
who have been listening uh along with us

1506
01:10:15,709 --> 01:10:13,320
and in the chat today uh it's been a

1507
01:10:18,950 --> 01:10:15,719
real pleasure and uh next up on our show

1508
01:10:20,689 --> 01:10:18,960
on Monday we've got uh TJ Ellard he'll

1509
01:10:22,970 --> 01:10:20,699
be coming back to the show to talk about

1510
01:10:25,189 --> 01:10:22,980
uh what he's been working on and a

1511
01:10:26,410 --> 01:10:25,199
little bit of Skinwalker Ranch talk as

1512
01:10:28,790 --> 01:10:26,420
well I'm sure

1513
01:10:31,490 --> 01:10:28,800
yeah he's an excellent guy so really

1514
01:10:33,290 --> 01:10:31,500
excited to chat with him again uh and we

1515
01:10:34,850 --> 01:10:33,300
wish all of you a wonderful rest of your

1516
01:10:36,709 --> 01:10:34,860
weekend so hope everybody has a good

1517
01:10:39,590 --> 01:10:36,719
time and uh and a good good week ahead

1518
01:10:41,630 --> 01:10:39,600
and we will catch everyone down the road

1519
01:10:43,370 --> 01:10:41,640
so peace out one love we'll see you down

1520
01:10:45,290 --> 01:10:43,380
the road as DJ says we're always looking

1521
01:10:47,570 --> 01:10:45,300
for what's up what's coming up around

1522
01:10:48,980 --> 01:10:47,580
the bed take care